7/20/2018: This car is back on eBay after nearly two years. Where is the market now? If I was, err, well, actually no – there isn’t much of a circumstance where I would buy this because I have a lot of projects I could do in 20 minutes I can’t seem to find time for. Seller has an 80% feedback rating. Does that matter? Not if you do the homework you should do regardless of the sellers feedback.
Someone is going to buy this and it will be a lot better car than it seems like it is in the pictures.
11/04/2016 (sorry euro-date folks): Giulietta Spider Veloce 10107 1495*11643, 00111*30278 (1960 TI engine). From the Daniel J. Rapley seemingly never ending stockpile of Giulietta projects and available now on eBay is this 1960 Spider Veloce. Original engine is missing, but a Veloce item is said to be available. Car is complete and straight enough to be a good candidate, but a chunk of change will be required to get the rockers in good shape. Why do I call it a long stalled project? That silver respray appears to be quite old, and yet never to have seen the light of motoring day.
One wonders where this has been hiding? I am frequently surprised by the continual coming-out-of-the-woodwork of Giuliettas. This car looks decent at first fluch, but the rockers are pretty bad, and when you dig into the rockers – you are starting from the bottom.
Update December 15, 2016: Someone has been busy! This car has surfaced five and a half years later at Fantasy Junction with a comprehensive restoration and a $79,500 asking price. It’s satisfying when you see a car come full circle. Anyone know who did the restoration? Some things aren’t exactly to factory original – but a Veloce spec 1400cc engine build is a nice thing to have.
Update November 16, 2016: The process of democratic capitalism has spoken – this car sold for 288,000 Euros; $307, 414 Trump Box at time of writing. Occasional correspondent Stuart shares this insight: “From bitter experience I can tell you that to restore an SZ properly you have to de-clench all the aluminium panels as there is electrolytic action between the unprotected steel tubing and the skin of the car. Leaving original panels in place is not really an option. And that is only the start!
How much all this costs is anyone’s guess but it will be a significant sum….the real question is will it come close the value put on an SZ by FJ?”
I know some collectors who have salaried staff maintaining and restoring (how do I get that gig??) their investments, maybe the cost is simply a craftsman’s wages for a year.
November 10, 2016: Giulietta Sprint Zagato (SZ) 10126*00072. Contrasting considerably with market 548 (and estimated to be considerably less expensive) is this project SZ that was auctioned in France by Aguttes on November 5, 2016. I hunted around for a result, but have yet to find one. Anyone here catch it?
The car has an interesting early history, but has spent most of it’s life waiting for recovery from a wreck in 1968. An SZ in project form is a rarity these days, most having been sniffed out by clever car hunters. Taking on the task of seeing an SZ project through to completion is not for everyone – there are parts needed that simply must be produced from scratch – that might as well be made out of gold.
Not your average grocery-getter. I’m curious to see the other side of the nose where repairs were made. If the nose was wrecked, where did the trim seen here come from? Wasn’t there a car found in Caracas and listed on ebay out of Los Angeles a decade ago that looked like this?
Giulietta Spider Veloce 750F 1495*06959, 1315*32673. The fine folks over at Significant Cars have this fresh from neglect 1959 Spider Veloce listed on eBay. It is described as all original and having about 65,000 miles. The neglect took its toll in the form of rusty rockers and spoiled finishes, but with care I think a lot of the originality could be preserved, and I am sure some of you are thinking the same ting as you contemplate whether to transfer some money around and make a play for it.
How would you feel if it was you unearthing this thing? Me too! I would detail this thing for 40 straight hours before turning a screw. Make it absolutely as good as possible with what’s here and then make a plan. Really is a fine looking specimen. Continue reading
Update November 1, 2016: Seller sent me these pictures of the engine and transmission.
Engine is pretty clean. It is difficult to make the original castings look really great without bringing a lot of nasty chemicals to bear. Note the cam cover does not have the cross piece at the back the later 750 engines have. Lucas?
And with a tunnel case no less. Wrenches not included. I’ve got a big box of engine mounts somewhere…
October 28, 2016: Giulietta Spider 750D 1495*01109, 1315*41017. This well displayed project Spider is available now on eBay out of the Chicago area from a seller whose ebay sale cars I have written about a few times. All the major components are either pictured or described. I didn’t see it, but there must be a gallon bucket of fasteners somewhere. Take note of the presentation – if you are selling a project, this is a good way to do it.
Gives the impression of being drive-able when it’s assembled like this – might clean the windshield though. Every piece will need work and refinishing – every one, especially the big bracket in the middle.
Spider 750D 1495*05489, AR00530*11182* (not original). This car recently received 31 bids and made $16,000 on eBay – but of course it is now relisted and receiving bids again. Visible rust indicates there will be a lot of repair needed, although the trunk floor is surprisingly good. It’s missing the transmission, front bumpers and center grill – none of which is particularly hard to find or expensive. This is a good project for someone who has done this sort of project before.
Has the look of a parts car that someone realized was probably valuable in it’s own right. Nose looks decent. I’m going to guess the hood is not original.
Update October 13, 2016. Another success story. Eight years ago almost to the day this car was a stalled project, looking like a few bucks and hoping for rain in the form of a value bump enough to be worth tidying up and putting back together for either enjoyment or resale. That rain came.
I like the color combo and the restoration was done by a Giulietta specialist well known for quality work in Alfa circles. I’m guessing that a discussion about a purchase price around the $44,000 asking could buy it. I’m also guessing everyone involved would be happy since it’s very likely better in person as it looks in pictures.
It’s strange to think you can become immune enough to the charms of something like this that you lose the wonder and awe you felt the first time you saw one. Gotta get my steel and aluminum 3D printer working.