Market 547: Spider Veloce 11643 – long stalled project

7/20/2018: This car is back on eBay after nearly two years. Where is the market now?  If I was, err, well, actually no – there isn’t much of a circumstance where I would buy this because I have a lot of projects I could do in 20 minutes I can’t seem to find time for.   Seller has an 80% feedback rating.  Does that matter?  Not if you do the homework you should do regardless of the sellers feedback.

Someone is going to buy this and it will be a lot better car than it seems like it is in the pictures.

11/04/2016 (sorry euro-date folks): Giulietta Spider Veloce 10107 1495*11643, 00111*30278 (1960 TI engine).  From the Daniel J. Rapley seemingly never ending stockpile of Giulietta projects and available now on eBay is this 1960 Spider Veloce.  Original engine is missing, but a Veloce item is said to be available.  Car is complete and straight enough to be a good candidate, but a chunk of change will be required to get the rockers in good shape.  Why do I call it a long stalled project?  That silver respray appears to be quite old, and yet never to have seen the light of motoring day.

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One wonders where this has been hiding?  I am frequently surprised by the continual coming-out-of-the-woodwork of Giuliettas.  This car looks decent at first fluch, but the rockers are pretty bad, and when you dig into the rockers – you are starting from the bottom.

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Market 555: Giulietta Spider 10104 09074

Giulietta Spider 10104 1495*09074.  I look at this project car on eBay and it makes me realize I have changed.  I used to see a project like this and it made me think “Wow, cool, it would be great fun to dig in and fix it up”, but now I see a bunch of disappointingly beyond repair pieces and chances to scrape my knuckles.  Assuming the areas where the liners go into the block are not corroded, and that the inner rockers are “good enough” and that the seat pans are not all rusted to heck, and that the brake drums wont be destroyed by trying to get them off, and the gas tank is salvageable, and the steering wheel isn’t all bent and warped from trying to move this around the yard, and… you get the idea.

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I may have changed in the direction of becoming more realistic about just how challenging a project like this is, but I still look at it and think it would be funny to get it running and driving and not do anything to the cosmetics.  Actually, yeah, that would be fun for about 10 minutes. Continue reading

Market 304: 750 Spider project with hardtop

Update December 15, 2016:  Someone has been busy!  This car has surfaced five and a half years later at Fantasy Junction with a comprehensive restoration and a $79,500 asking price.  It’s satisfying when you see a car come full circle.  Anyone know who did the restoration?  Some things aren’t exactly to factory original – but a Veloce spec 1400cc engine build is a nice thing to have.

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Handsome devil!

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Market 552: 1980’s Time warp Spider Veloce 1600 390342

Giulia Spider Veloce 1600 10118*390342, 00121*02224.  This Southern California Spider (since 1989 anyway – who knows is chequered past from whence college prior?) is available from Chequered Flag on ebay with a $71,500 instant gratification price, and a $40,000 reserve not met starting point.  It presents very well in the manner of a car that saw use as stylish transport in ages past, without much regard to recent phenomena of collect-ability or value – it probably changed hands in 1989 for a few thousand dollars.  The seller is spot on when they say it is owed a serious restoration -at least paint and some corrections, but it remains to be seen if the selling price is such that that restoration makes financial sense.  Cheque it out!

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Looks great.  Borrani wheels, Talbot style mirror, straight nose ridge – what’s not to like?  

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Market 549: SZ 00072 – project auctioned in France

Update November 16, 2016: The process of democratic capitalism has spoken – this car sold for 288,000 Euros; $307, 414 Trump Box at time of writing.  Occasional correspondent Stuart shares this insight: “From bitter experience I can tell you that to restore an SZ properly you have to de-clench all the aluminium panels as there is electrolytic action between the unprotected steel tubing and the skin of the car. Leaving original panels in place is not really an option. And that is only the start!

How much all this costs is anyone’s guess but it will be a significant sum….the real question is will it come close the value put on an SZ by FJ?”

I know some collectors who have salaried staff maintaining and restoring (how do I get that gig??) their investments, maybe the cost is simply a craftsman’s wages for a year.

November 10, 2016: Giulietta Sprint Zagato (SZ) 10126*00072.  Contrasting considerably with market 548 (and estimated to be considerably less expensive) is this project SZ that was auctioned in France by Aguttes on November 5, 2016.  I hunted around for a result, but have yet to find one.  Anyone here catch it?

The car has an interesting early history, but has spent most of it’s life waiting for recovery from a wreck in 1968.  An SZ in project form is a rarity these days, most having been sniffed out by clever car hunters.  Taking on the task of seeing an SZ project through to completion is not for everyone – there are parts needed that simply must be produced from scratch – that might as well be made out of gold.

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Not your average grocery-getter.  I’m curious to see the other side of the nose where repairs were made.  If the nose was wrecked, where did the trim seen here come from?  Wasn’t there a car found in Caracas and listed on ebay out of Los Angeles a decade ago that looked like this?

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Market 14: “1961 Concours 101 Sprint” 20825

Update November 11, 2016.  This car is listed on ebay again out of Greenville South Carolina.  It’s funny to read my old write up – so earnest!  This car has been improved a tiny bit – most notably with Sprint seats being added, but still has a few things that could be improved if the new owner so desired.  Or not.

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Still a good looking example.  This dealer had a Giulietta TI listed recently.  Very little distortion on the side of the body in the reflection.  

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Market 551: Tidy early Spider 01594

Giulietta Spider 750D 1495*01594, 1315*41667.  This lovely example is available now on eBay out of Illinois.  These very early 750D’s are about as blue chip as a classic gets – they are mechanically simple, surprisingly fast, and can be quite reliable.  As the description points out, this is a largely original example, without the usual “upgrades” such as a split case 5 speed, or disk brakes.  As these cars continue to be discovered by collectors, originality to spec will hold more value.

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If you showed me this picture and said it was 40 years old I’d believe you except maybe it would have a bit of a sepia tone to it.  Node looks really well balanced and straight – hard to achieve on a car that has seen any work.

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