Market 69: Yet another restored ‘Guilia Spyder’ 372402

Update 7/22/12: This car has surfaced on Hemmings Motor news for $47,000. Still looks good. Amazing how they get around.  The current seller has done a lot of work to the interior -it looks amazing now.

Sensibly the Ferrari sticker has been removed from the fender.

Update 12/15/08: Auction ended at $26,250 with 35 bids, $250 more than I predicted.  Look for the follow up.

Giulia Spider 10123*372402. This car is on eBay right now. Car was new with a single carb 1600 but the seller states the original engine was a 750 series 1300 with a 4 speed which can’t be right, but as the driver of a 1750 powered 2000 series Berlina I don’t doubt that is what was in it when they got it. Older Alfas tended to get whatever running engine was on hand when the original gave out. I don’t know how a guy can spend $40,000 on restoring a car and misspell both of the words in the model name on the title of the auction, but hey, it’s a free country.

2d3a_3Pretty odd combination of mirrors can be seen here. This car is Porsche Boxter metallic ‘Ocean Blue’, a nice color in the right setting, and I’m sure striking on this car, but a detractor to most people that would spend big money on a car like this. I’d have talked him into Dutch or Tornado blue, both period correct, striking and not far from what can be seen here. I can’t fault the preparation though, the car looks great with all trim in top condition.

31d3_3There was a red late 80’s Toyota Supra I used to see in San Francisco all the time with a Ferrari sticker in the same place as this car has one, and they had the same effect. Wheels look like Halibrand SZ replicas, nice wheels but heavy compared to the originals. The stance of this car is great, sporty without being too low.


The auction text (all caps not my idea) “WHERE DO I START?? I PURCHASED THIS GREAT LITTLE GEM IN 2002 ON EBAY, YES EBAY.
IT WAS IN DEPLORABLE CONDITION, AND I FELT SORRY FOR IT AND GAVE IT A NEW CARING HOME. IT WAS IMMEDIATELY STRIPPED AND SENT TO THE SAND BLASTERS. SOME SMALL RUST REPAIRS WERE MADE AND THE ROADSTER WAS PAINTED 1999 PORSCHE BOXSTER OCEAN BLUE. BOY, DO I GET THE COMPLEMENTS ON THE COLOR. THE CAR WAS ORIGINALLY THAT FLAT ITALIAN BLUE AND SOMEONE HAD PAINTED IT RED (NATURALLY) WITH A BROOM.(ALMOST) IT ALSO HAD A 1295 CC 750 ENGINE WITH A FOUR SPEED. IT WILL GO WITH THE SALE IF YOU WISH. I HAD A CLAPPED OUT 1980 SPYDER LYING ABOUT AND PULLED THE ENGINE AND TRANSMISSION FROM THAT, AND COMPETELY REBUILT IT TO NEW SPECS WITH 10.7 PISTONS AND CYLINDERS, NEW WEBERS, NEW CHROME HEADERS AND EURO SPEC CAMS. NEW EXHAUST SYSTEM. WOW, THIS CAR IS THE FASTEST 4 CYLINDER ALFA I HAVE DRIVEN, EVER, AND I HAVE HAD ALFAS SINCE 1959. NATURALLY THE TRANSMISSION WAS SERVICED TOO, WITH NEW BEARINGS, SEALS AND SYNCHROS. A NEW CLUTH AND T/O BEARING TOO. THE BRAKING SYSTEM IS FRESH WITH NEW SHOES (3 SHOE SYSTEM), NEW MASTER CYLINDER, FLEX HOSES AND WHEEL CYLINDERS. REBUILT SUSPENSION WITH NEW SPRINGS, SHOCKS, SWAY BAR, AND AXEL STRAPS. CHASSIS IS NICELY DETAILED. LESS THAN A THOUSAND MILES ON ALL THE WORK.
NEW WINDSHIELD GLASS, COMPLEMENTS THE NEW DASH TOP. (NOT A COVER). FRESH NEW INTERIOR INCLUDING ITALIAN MADE SEAT COVERS IN ORIGINAL ITALIAN RED ORANGE. NEW SEAT BELTS, NEW DOOR PANELS, WOOL CARPET, ALL NEW RUBBER FLOOR MATS IN DRIVERS COMPARTMENT AND TRUNK, NEW TOP DRAPE, AND A BEAUTIFUL DEEP BLUE GERMAN CANVAS TOP CUSTOM MADE TO MATCH CAR. NEW RADIO BLANK, NEW SWITCH KNOBS.. THE LIST GOS ON!!
NATURALLY, ALL NEW BODY RUBBERS AND SEALS. NEW INTERIOR DOOR HANDLES AND 3 NEW MIRRORS, THE ORIGINAL STEERING WHEEL IS VERY GOOD. O YES, THE HEATER MOTOR AND W/S WIPER MOTOR WERE REBUILT. NEW TURN SIGNAL AND IGNITION SWITCHES, WIPER BAG, TACH AND SPEEDO CABLES, GAS TANK SENDER. I AM SURE I HAVE FORGOTTEN A TON OF ITEMS. HOW ABOUT MAYBE A THOUSAND HOURS OF LABOR.. JUST TRY TO DO THIS RESTORATION FOR LESS THAN 40K. WON’T HAPPEN. BE GLAD TO PICK YOU UP AT PORT COUMBUS AIRPORT, OR SHIP ANYWHERE. CALL ROGER WITH YOUR QUESTIONS AT 614 395 1487.”

34a1_3That trunk looks nice and smooth, nothing is amiss back here. Too bad these late Spiders lost the earlier style small tail lights.

2f92_3Okay, only partial points off since there is only one Ferrari sticker on it. Again, this car looks just right in profile.

3daf_31Other than overly yellow gauges and a slightly baggy looking drivers seat cover I like the interior. It’s not too good to use with a good color combo. These gauges are maybe 20% too yellowed to use as is. A decent set could be had off eBay that would be right on, but at $40K and counting I don’t blame the seller for leaving well enough alone.

bb89_3I would call this clean but sloppy. Wiring is a little too loose for my taste and heater ducting looks like Ace hardware dryer duct rather than the nice stuff available from several sellers. I’d run an air cleaner and run that open breather into it. No matter what you do, you would smell the gases exiting that breather.

bf27_3Chrome header is neat. Note 2 liter oil filter placement. These appear to be the 3 shoe brakes. I don’t see a sway bar, rebound strap or heat shield for the master cylinder. Loose ends the new owner may want to tie up.

Nice car all in all, put together to one mans vision, but too unoriginal to call restored, more of an ‘Abnormale’ in the truest sense. These kind of cars are always a disappointment to sell because the cost just as much if not more to produce than a properly restored car but only ever seem to make 80% of the price a properly restored car makes. Add to that our current economic state and this car becomes a tough sell. Sold through Barrett Jackson or RM this car would probably do well, making something in the low 30’s but on eBay I am going to say maybe $26K , reserve not met.

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One thought on “Market 69: Yet another restored ‘Guilia Spyder’ 372402

  1. I am p.o. that sold this car to the seller in 2002. It was in sad, but running, shape. I “rescued” it from a local shop where it sat for a couple of years. I had no skills or knowledge to revive it, couldn’t even get it to idle smoothly to time it. My son would give it a shot of ether to fire, close the hood and jump in and we would beat around town.
    It was originally Dutch Blue, and painted resale red long before I got hold of it. It did indeed have the 1300 engine in it, but it was a 5 speed. It took me 2 years to admit I was over my head and sell her. *sigh*
    I always wondered what became of her. I know this was posted well over a year ago, but I have just stumbled across it.
    -Looking For Another

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