Market 170: Nicely restored silver Giulia SS

Update 2/13/10: I had the nephew of the seller contact me with some links to videos and more pictures.  Car is still available.  Enjoy.

The start up -nice induction bark.

Too bad they couldn’t get out on a track and really go for it.

Looking good -very good.  More pictures here.


Update 12/12/09: Bryan contacted the seller and received these two other pictures.  Enjoy.

The portal to a pleasurable experience.  Seats appear to be leather and have the plain centers without stitches of the earlier cars.  I look forward to hours spent getting all the little details right.

I like the gray and black and silver and red combo; busy but not too.  I think a piece of carpet is missing over the transmission tunnel.

Giulia Sprint Speciale (If my reading of the Bertone body number in the third picture is correct as 87*1619, this is 10121*380360). This car is available now out of Switzerland and was brought to my attention by Elmar, the Giuliettas.com unofficial continental correspondant and among the brotherhood of difficult SS project owners. Vehicle description is very simple “Silver 1600 SS. Sprint speciale with Conrero engine 130 HP, Concours condition. Totally restored 900 Kms ago. Engine run in on bench for 10 hours. ATE front disc brakes (original Dunlop brakes available).,nov. 1963. french plates. Price 85000,-Eur” That is $125,000 of todays US dollars!

Fill in the wheel wells, put one of those new anti-gravity plasma engines under the hood, develop some serious pressure differential seals and you have yourself a space ship. This is the point I can’t wait to get to -of course I won’t have a lift or any shiney grill pieces, and I doubt anyone would consider giving me $125,000 for it, but one can dream.

Conrero spec 1600 making 130 hp. I wonder what nationality those hp’s are? I have read a lot of commentary about the meaning of Conrero’s name on an Alfa of this period. The gist being at one extreme that you could buy parts (like pistons and air filters) from Conrero and DIY with his ‘kit’, or you could pay him to install his parts and do development for you or he essentially owned a car and developed it for his personal efforts. Are all of these ‘Conrero’? Arguably yes. Do they all add equal value to a car? Not my call… Okay, to the object at hand: Everything about this looks fantastic- amazing -inspirational. I see a lot of correct expensive stuff and some mod’s, all well executed.

The good stuff. Stainless braided fuel lines look a little messy and wires and cables still need a final tuck and tie but that sort of detail is dealt with in the last 1% of the effort. Did SS’s of this period go with Bosch charging or would they still have been Marelli?

Brakes are converted to Ate. Original Dulops are included. Parts for the Dunlops are available again, albeit not as readily as Ate, so a practical change but no longer quite as advantageous as it once was. The level of detail finish here is impressive and about what I am aspiring to in my meager efforts. Look at the shine on the upper A arm dust caps. I like that they carried the body color so far into the structure of the car..

Underside of the nose is as well tended to and finished as the top. Again, level of finish and attention to detail is staggering and represents a huge investment of time.

This is along the lines of the color combo I am considering Gray carpets with black vinyl inserts, red seats and door panels, white headliner. Door jambs look great.

The finished product on display. Let me get that credit card out and be sure to gas it up for the drive home.

I find this kind of SS simultaneously inspiring and discouraging. Inspiring because I have one of these and this car confirms it can look great and be expensive, yet discouraging because a great expense of time and money will have to be expended to get to even half the level of quality seen here. I am going to say that this morning I am more inspired and encouraged than anything, for I am only 887 hours and about $15,000 from my goal…

The asking price for this car is all the money in the world and then some for an SS without serious race history. The Conrero provenance adds to the cost no doubt but the nature of the provenance needs to be clearly spelled out. In any case it is a magnificent example and there are those monied types who could drop $85,000 euro’s more easily than I can spend $600 on door buttons and front turn signal assemblies from OK parts, and that is the buyer this car is preened for.

Another silver one.

And yet another.

And the polar opposite.

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15 thoughts on “Market 170: Nicely restored silver Giulia SS

  1. That is a beautiful car. The color is perfect,as is pretty much every thing else. Its a high price to pay, but if I had the $ I might go for it.

  2. Dear Discouraged Matt,
    If you fixate on the totality of your work ahead you won’t be thinking about the steps of your journey, the twists and turns which gave you such pride as when you restored the insides of your dashboard instruments before or figured out your last engine problem. Don’t rush to the finish without enjoying your workout along the way! If you wanted a ‘done’ car you’d have a product of someone else…and without inside knowledge. You made a choice to assemble this puzzle!
    Your friend,
    L.

  3. Damn, that is pretty.

    Can’t remember if you’re going silver or grey exterior paint, but the interior setup here gets my vote for your car…

  4. Cool, bloodless perfection, nearly monochromatic interior – the perfect Swiss interpretation of an Italian car. Nice indeed, but a little jarring.

    I keep wondering why no one puts Panasports on these cars, until I remember that rear fender clearance is measured in mils.

  5. Was silver ever a factory option on these cars? I have to admit color combo looks fantastic- more 300 SL Gullwing perhaps than Alfa, but I’d take it!

  6. my friend wants to sell his giulia ss 1600 1963 lhd mint condition, can you please advise the best way to sell this special car

    regards

    robert molenaar monaco

    0033 613 56 3500

    • I am learning every day through my own strugglers to appreciate the time and effort required to achieve this with a car.

      Pricey yes, but what it takes.

      Ciao,
      Matt

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