Market 126: Giulia Spider 375817. Nice!

Update 6/29: Alright people, come to order.  Yes, this is an attractive, well maintained Giulia Spider with a storied past, and very well presented auction, and yes, it is pretty cool, but $33,100 after 48 bids?  Wow, I’m glad to see 101 cars are still doing okay.  My Spider looks pretty good at $4000… maybe I’ll just fix it up!

Giulia Spider 10123*375817. This red Spider is currently attracting bids on eBay out of Denver Colorado. The write up is extensive and it’s ownership record reads like a who’s who of well-known long-time Alfa (AROC) Enthusiasts. With 2 days, 8 hours left in the auction it is sitting at $20,600 after 21 bids, reserve not met. Full auction write-up is at the end of this post.

spider 357817 noseNow that is nice! Trim finish is perfect, trim and panel fit is exemplary and the color red is right. Uncle Rick would complain about the ‘eye liner’, but then he’s that way. Eyeliner refers to the ‘licorice rope’ rubber edging that guys like to put under the trim to protect their $10,000 paint job from vibration scratches inflicted on the paint by the trim. I can dig. Why do these kind of headlights bother me?

spider 375817 backUsually the Clover leaf sticker goes in front of the door opening, but this placement works for me, breaking up the monotony of a perfect red paint job I suppose. Note that the line of the front bumperette continues through the rocker trim and on around the back bumper. This is often not right. Also note the drivers door fits very well.

spider 357817 backTrunk fit is very good. All the bright work is flawless. Even the bodywork and paint under the bumper is nice. Note new tires and muffler.

spider 357817 rockerNot many Giulia Spider sellers would be confident posting a close up of this area. The welded lip of the rockers is in good shape. A sign of either utter originality or great care during repair. Either way, bravo!

spider 357817 batteryI don’t think those hose clamps on the fuel filler are original, but with a clean, rust free trunk like this; who cares?

spider 375817 dashVery nice. Gauges are slightly yellowed, but I don’t know if you can get new inserts for this series of gauge. I need one of those mirrors, in fact, I need two!

spider 357817 engineIs that valve cover painted? Nothing much to fault here if only dual Webers at the expense of originality. Yeah, I’d learn to live with it too.

spider 375817 underThe obligatory modest up-skirt peek. I see reinforced trailing arm mounts, a new muffler, new tires, a very clean differential housing, an un-scuffed up gas tank and general air of proper care.

This is the Spider you should buy. All these rusty “unmolested” “should run” “mostly complete” “surface rust only” projects that form an endless procession across the eBay auction landscape (and consequently my blog) are penny-wise/pound foolish money pits that end up costing more than this car to achieve a lesser result. I know, I’ve sniffed the delicious cheese on the trigger of that mouse trap, but I’ve also seen and felt the agonizing years of labor and expense spent NOT driving my Alfa (SS and Spider to be exact) around. I know not every one has $30,000 laying in an account somewhere to lavish on a car like this but remember that if well cared for, this car can only increase in value while you get to enjoy it, unlike that top of the line Honda Accord you’ve been lusting after (in an extremely practical way) that will be a 24 hours of Lemons candidiate in 8 years.

A worse comparable car (as most of them are).

A similar car.

A perhaps better car (only because it’s a more desireable series).

Auction text posted at the end because it is lengthy!: “Those who follow Alfa Romeo Giulia Spiders, rare and lovely Italian gems produced from 1962 to 1965, will recognize from the photos that this is an exceptionally original, sharp-looking, and desirable example. Those in the Denver or Pacific Northwest regions may in fact already know “Nuccia.” This was former Alfa Romeo Owners Club USA President Bill Gillham’s first Alfa (he purchased it from another Alfa legend, Les Hurlock, around 1982). Three years ago, Gillham sold it to fellow AROC Board veteran Bob Kleinfeld. To prove that this car remains as mechanically sharp as it is cosmetically appealing, Bob reports: “When I bought the car, I met Bill halfway in Twin Falls, Idaho, and drove it home to Denver, 700 miles at averages of around 70-75. We crossed three passes at over 8,500 feet (including one at 12,000 feet) and the car took them all in fifth gear. And that was with the original Solex carb and stock cams.”

Bill Gillham, a noted restorer of vintage Alfas, repainted the car about 20 years ago. Despite that age, the paint on this garaged vehicle still looks quite good, though it might benefit from a rubbing out. The center section of the rear bumper was rechromed; otherwise, all the chrome is original and in good shape.

Additional photos and information are posted at:

An Alfa mechanic with more than 40 years of experience and an extensive racing background, Karen Dale Macgowan, installed dual Weber DCOEs and GTV cam shafts. The carbs are jetted for Denver’s altitude and will run lean at sea level, so they’ll benefit from rejetting if the car moves to a lower altitude. Centerline mounts were used to tilt the engine the correct amount. The combination of the carbs, cams, and original 5.12 rear end make it a joy to drive out of corners. (When Kleinfeld bought the car, it was equipped with the original Solex two-barrel carburetor that Hurlock had modified to overcome a problem common to Giulietta and Giulia normales, stalling on long left turns because of fuel starvation. Les figured out a way to cure this and modified the carb accordingly. That carb and everthing else removed to upgrade the intake go with the car. No holes have been drilled so the car could easily be converted back to its original stock configuration. At Denver’s altitude, it needed the additional power and especially torque the Webers and cams give it.) Spare, lug wrench, and jack are included along with all parts removed by Karen.

A couple of other things worth noting:
* The car has Lucas tripod headlamps, which are rare, expensive, great looking, and fabulous at night.
* Outside mirrors are period-correct Lucas, rare items today.
* The tires were new when Gillham sold the car three years ago (correct size BF Goodrich tires) and the exhaust system was also freshly replaced at that time.
* The car had a valve job, but the engine internals are otherwise original. It uses no oil or coolant, fires up right away, and has only 73,550 miles. Oil pressure is great.
* The battery is installed in a marine plastic box to prevent any rust from developing in the trunk. There is a Griot’s master cut-off switch on the battery.

Kleinfeld installed a rebuilt idler arm to cure a shimmy the car had when he drove it from Idaho. The steering is rock solid and there’s no more vibration or shimmy. The three-shoe brakes were completely overhauled and relined about a year ago. The car stops fast and straight, seemingly with as much competence and authority as today’s power-assisted disk brakes. The car has a Marrelliplex electronic ignition system; no points to set! The car has Bilstein shocks all around and a Dave Rugh heavy-duty anti-roll bar.

When Les owned the car, he designed and built a small electronic circuit to convert the windshield wipers to variable speed. The car has not seen any rain in so long we can’t comment on their effectiveness.

Seats and interior in general are like new. Gillham had the dash pad custom made in leather, replacing the original vinyl pad. It’s beautifully done. The top is like new, apparently in Hartz cloth. The rear window is absolutely clear and unblemished.

This highly original Giulia even has the original “all-transistor, AM pushbutton” Motorola radio, and it still plays! A collapsible, four-part antenna improves the look from the fixed antenna the car came with.

I’ve known Bob Kleinfeld for over a decade in the Alfa Club, and I’ve seen the meticulous care he takes of this car, his 1961 Giulietta Spider, as well as a 1966 Porsche 912 he used to have. Bob has been active in the Alfa Club and owned Alfas since these Series 101 cars were new in the 1960s (you can find articles he wrote in the Alfa Owner dating back to that era). He’s been a priceless resource and friend to me as I’ve upgraded and maintained my own ’61 and ’62 Spiders, and I can’t think of a better alfista from whom to buy a vintage car. Well, other than Bill Gillham, from whom Bob bought it! After having had two near-twin Spiders in his garage for the past three years, Bob decided to refurbish the ’61 Giulietta and reluctantly sell this Giulia.

Any questions will be answered promptly based on Bob’s and my familiarity with Nuccia. The car is available for viewing by seriously interested parties by appointment in Denver. Many thanks for your interest. To learn more about Alfa Romeos and maximize the fun of Alfa Romeo ownership, please consider joining the Alfa Romeo Owners Club at

The title and car will be available to the new owner as soon as payment clears. A $500 PayPal deposit is due within 48 hours. For the remaining amount, money order or personal check is ideal. The buyer is responsible for arranging shipping, though the seller can meet the truck in Denver as needed.

If you buy this car this week, you can enjoy it at the AROC National Convention in Portland, Oregon July 15-19 in Portland, Oregon. We’ll work with you to get it there in time. Or if you’re located to the East, it can be a standout at the 2010 Convention in the DC area next June...

–Brewster Thackeray


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