Market 465: Sprint 1600 353403 in San Diego

Giulia Sprint 1600 10112*353403.  This car is available right now from Motoring Investments in San Diego.  They have sold several very nice Alfa’s over the years and by all accounts do very high quality work getting the cars ready for sale.  This particular example is overall very clean and ready for use, with some slight detail changes that could stand to be done to take it to the next level.  Fantasy Junction sold that very nice one I wrote about recently for $56,500, so this one at $47,500 doesn’t seem too far off.

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Perfectly clean?  Check!  Neutral background?  Check!  Slightly saturated color?  Check!  Most handsome angle?  Perhaps.  A nicely composed image.

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Market 312: Nicely modified 10105 Sprint at FJ -Sold!

Giulietta Sprint 10105 1493*21131.  This car was recently sold through Fantasy Junction.  Asking price was about $56,000.  I believe this is a car that was sold through Cars Dawydiak a few years ago, but I’ve seen a lot of these cars, so I may be mistaken.  Even though it has been sold, I thought I would do a quick write up since it’s a nice but non-original normale that has been hot-rodded and that sold for more than a few recently sold, nearly perfect restored 101 Normale’s I’ve seen. An interesting data point for those that care.

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Market 456: Giulia Sprint 10112 353030 in the North east

Update 4/17/13:  1 bid, $25,000, sold.  I suspect this will turn out to be a well bought car.

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Update 2/2/13:  No sale at $24,101.69.  I am thinking they would probably like to get at least $30K.

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Giulia Sprint 10112 353030.  This late Sprint is on eBay out of Mass.  It looks pretty good in the pictures -well except for some mismatched looking paint on the lower edge of the doors, but I’ve talked to a previous owner and they assured me this was a sold car.  I usually say it, but here it is again -I like these late Giulia Sprints -there’s a something neat about the fact that this is an 11 year old design when it was made, and only probably continuing to be made to use up parts.

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Has all the good points I usually mention -shut lines, straight trim etc.  See what I mean about the paint on the lower door edge and on the rocker?  I am assured that it was totally solid and just had some paint lifting, probably due to poor prep.

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Market 450: Giuliettas.com exclusive Sprint 20205 (was M49)

Update 1/16/13: Car has been sold via eBay for $12,500 almost immediately upon listing.

12/13/12: Giulietta Sprint 10102 1493*20205, 1315*010311.  This car is available right now out of Florida from a long time Alfa owner/restorer.  It is more solid than the usual Sprint project and complete but needs a full restoration to be nice or at least a mechanical freshening to be driven.  If you’re looking for a matching numbers complete Sprint as a starting point for a project this may be the car for you!  Asking price is “offers in the lower mid-teens”.

This car was Market 49 where it failed to sell for about $5500 back when you could get pretty good runner for about $20,000.  Pretty good runners have moved on to start at about $35,000 and projects have gotten more expensive as a result, so I think $12 – 15K would not be a bad deal for this car.  Car was originally delivered to a dealer in Italy – finding it’s way to the US in the 60′s.

Email me and I’ll put you in contact with the seller.  sprints @ giuliettas.com

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One could drive this car looking like this.  Might cause some grumbling among the purists – but who cares.  Marker lights are consistent with a European delivery car.  Trim all looks pretty good. 

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Where are they now: Sprint 20377

The recent listing for Sprint 20753 prompted Greg to send me the email I attached below.  45 years have passed since he sold 20377 and he wonders what it has been up to.  Anyone have 20377 in their garage or know who does?  I have 20379 in my garage, but they haven’t kept in touch…

I can be reached at sprints @ giuliettas.com if you do.

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There’s something magical about an old picture of the cars we love.  This one is from the late -1960′s.  I went through my family albums and there are NO pictures of my dads old truck at all from 40 years of ownership.  I like the fog lights on this car.

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Market 446: Sprint 750B 09141 in Washington

Update 12/12/12: A reader has commented that this car has sold for $42,000 and another reminded me that the Craigslist price was $18,000 obo.  Such a deal!

Giulietta Sprint 750B 1493*09141, 1315*07630.  Cosmopolitan Motors appears to have been the ones who picked up this car that was sold out of an estate sale a while back for $20,000 OBO.  A few guys who I correspond with on occasion were trying to buy it so I looked at pictures of it a few times back then – unfortunately I didn’t save any.  Looks like a really nice original-ish car.  I wonder what the current asking is??  Thanks for sending me this Zen.

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One could definitely do worse than this as Sprints go.  Has Autorouche (sp?) headlights same as Jeff has on his Giulia SS.  Hood fits very very well.

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Market 445: Sprint 20753, nice but not original

Update 12/12/12:  Listing ended -no bids.  So it goes.

Giulietta Sprint 10105 1493*20753.  This car is on eBay right now out of Illinois from a 0 feedback seller who has 5 cars on offer -the other four being modern Italian exotica.  This Sprint looks very nice, and will certainly satisfy someone looking for a sporty 1950′s Italian coupe, but the purists out there will give it some rough treatment – especially at nearly $40,000 asking.  

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Body and trim looks great.  Grills appear to have had the ‘chip-cutter’ portions removed and these home-made horizontal bars added.  Nice mirror.

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Market 440: Sprint 10105 21160 off the path and lost in the woods

Giulietta Sprint 10105 1495*21160. This Sprint is on eBay right now out of Florida.  It has all the hallmarks of a stalled restoration that got pretty far down the wrong road and the owner, rather than spend more money turning around and getting back on track the owner has decided to cut their losses.  Wonder if it was a fix-it-up-and-sell-it restoration or someone trying to get a Sprint driver on the cheap-ish?  Oh, and the starting price is $24,999 – a few bucks on the high side IMHO.  Don’t get me wrong -these aren’t easy cars to put together -but really.

 

Lets see… sombrero’s?  No.  Headlights?  No -nice try though.  Turn signal lights?  Nope.  Paint doesn’t look too bad.

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F.I.S.P.A. Air cleaner for most single carb Sprints and Spiders + mystery

I got this FISPA (TIPO: FATS 5032, DISEGNO: 9815) air filter canister from a reader as sort of partial payment for helping sell a car.  I thought it would be right for my Sprint but it turns out it’s got a slightly different shape than another one I had on hand for a Sprint.

Applications: I decided to check the parts book and found there are three versions of this part.  If anyone has an original older Sprint or Spider I’d be interested in hearing which box you have.

  • 1315.53.820: For Spider up to engine 1315.43709; after that see 1315.53.832.
  • 1315.53.832: for Sprint from engine 1315.05874 to 1315.09002 – for Spider from engine 1315.43710 to 1315.45854; after those numbers see 101.02.08.010.00.
  • 101.02.08.010.00: for Sprint and Spider after numbers above.

Failure mode: rusts out, stabilizing mount to valve cover Splits, it gets lost.

Current state of parts: Classic Alfa UK sells a new repro.  eBay usually has a one listed in need of restoration for about $400.

Notes: Early versions seem to have a bolt instead of the loop (part 11 below) for tightening to the top of the carb.  I have seen several sorts of FISPA labels, from a stamped metal plate to a screened on decal.  Bill Gillham has repro’s of some of these.

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Heater part 3: Air intake, front, with motor 1493.54.708

The car I’m working on will eventually retire to a leisurely life in Washington -a state well known for its rainfall.  As such, I decided a good forced air system to heat the cabin and defog the windscreen was a good idea.  I have the original fan impeller mounted on a modern motor in my Sprint and it works okay -you can feel a little moving air, but it’s not very impressive (admittedly most of my ducting is leaky original BS or ill-fitting replacement BS, so maybe an unfair test).  Anyway, I was perusing the McMaster catalog when I found a 4″, 12 volt all-in-one in-line blower fan.

Applications: Sprint and sprint Veloce.

Failure mode: electric motor failure.

Current state of parts: repair original or find something to adapt in place of the original.

This is where the Air intake plenum lives.  It’s designed to act as a ram-air and I imagine at over about 40 mph the air forced in is moving faster than the original fan could push it in.  The rest under here looks pretty nice…

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Order of Operations (pretty please my dear aunt sally*)

You’ve done it.  You are at the nadir!  Anything you do from this point forward will temporarily counteract the entropic tendencies of that system known as your car -assuming an asteroid or flood doesn’t stop by for an afternoon chat.  From here on you’ll be moving closer to that first turn of the ignition key, that first drive, that first stone chip.  Or:  your car is as apart as you can get it without employing cutting tools.  Everything from here on out is part of the process of putting it back together.

As with any process, there are things that need to be done in preparation, things that just need to happen at some point for the process to be considered complete, things that can be done simultaneously, and things that need to be done in a specific order because if they are not, they either can’t be done or a lot of time will be wasted.  Some are obvious -you wouldn’t paint before the rust repair or torque the head before putting the head gasket on for example, but others are a little more subtle, like assembling the front turn signal lights -  but mostly it’s a matter of not doing things more than once or twice if possible, and taking advantage of big blocks of time the car will spend with experts -such as when getting rust repair and paint.  If you are doing every single thing to the car yourself then the process will take however long it will take because you can’t do more than 1 hour per hour.

Car manufacturers are keenly aware of the dependent and independent processes that go into putting a car together.  Everything is prepared and on hand for trained staff to do the job efficiently.  Here some Montreal’s and Dino’s (?) get coupons for Pizza delivery tucked under their windscreen wipers.  I got this image off Alfa-male, a great Alfa site.

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Heater part 2: Heater valve 1493.54.709 and control cable 1488.31.723

Last installment we looked at the heat exchanger box itself, this time I’ll focus on the bits that hook it up and control the incoming hot water: the heater valve and the push/pull cable that controls the valve.  The first generation of Sprint’s had a heater valve (1483.54.711) that looked not far removed from a garden tap and you actually had to pop the hood and get out to turn on the flow of hot water to the heater core (if you didn’t realize you were going to want heat before you started out).  At some point this was deemed a little old fashioned so a cable operated valve was put to use -cousins of which can be found on Alfa’s for many years to follow.

Valve failure mode(s): hardening of rubber diverter seal, oxidation leading to through pits or breakage, loss.

Control cable failure mode(s): still/difficult operation, cable breakage/cut leading to too short, loss.

The current state of the parts supply has:

1493.54.709 with new diaphragm seal installed.  Like all rubber things, it just got hard and cracked after 50+ years.  The inner plateau seals against the port in the valve body, keeping the water out of the core when not wanted, the outer ring seals to the body to keep it from leaking when it’s open.

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