Category Archives: 1600 Veloce

Market 366: Spider Veloce 380015 in Italy

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Giulia Spider Veloce 1600 10118*390015, 00121*01569.  From our pal’s Luzzago comes this 1600 Spider Veloce.  You have to call them and engage in human interaction if you want to know the asking price -I’m going to guess that price is in line with the asking price we’ve seen for similar cars as such places as Fantasy Junction.  All areas of the car are described in ALL CAPS as PERFECT.  Go look in person, bring a parts book and a magnet.

It’s red.  It’s a late spider.  It’s got a luster that triggers desire.  It looks damn good.

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Sprint and Sprint Veloce 2011 market review

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2011 saw more SS’s on the market than Sprint/Sprint Veloce’s -at least as far as my tracking went, and I didn’t really try to find SS’s more than Sprints.  Seems odd, since there were 10X more Sprint’s made.  If you look at the list below you will see very few first series 750B’s, no lightweights and only a couple non-lightweight Veloce’s changed hands -the bulk of the sales were 101 normale’s like mine.  Of those a few made really decent money.

 Market 287 was a Sprint in a sorry state out of Poland for $1000.

 Market 325 was a 101 Sprint selling as a pair with a stepnose GTV, sold together for $3748 -I’ll give the Sprint the benefit of the doubt and say it sold for $2000.

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Market 339: Leafy Spider on eBay

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Update 1/3/12: I have it on pretty good word that the car sold for $5500.

Update 12/14/11: Auction was pulled.  An off eBay deal?

Update 12/5/11: Giulia Spider Veloce 10118*390672.  She’s a Veloce!

Kip sent me a link to this Spider on eBay when it was first posted with the caption ‘car in a barn, without the barn’.  Pretty good description.  Car has a Pininfarina hard top guaranteeing it will sell for at least $1500.  Even the optimistic optimist in me thinks this is a parts car.

You can bet the left side of this car is REALLY rusty.  Looks like a reasonable car that got left for some reason and expired while waiting for it’s masters return.  What am I saying, buy this, fix it, run it.  Vroom!

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Market 336: Spider 1600 Veloce project

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Update 12/3/11: Auction was ended early, car is no longer available.

Giulia Spider Veloce 1600 AR390369, 00121*01965.  This car is on eBay right now at $9500 with 5 days to go and perfectly represents the opposite end of the spectrum from Market 335′s nicely restored Spider Veloce 1600 AR390532 that is $68,500 and listed as ‘sale pending’.  Seller says it’s numbers matching and complete but in need of much metal work.

Am I the only one that looks at a car in this condition and has a hard time accounting for the degradation?  ‘I have a great idea’, says weekend warrior shade tree mechanic who fancies himself a restorer, either blind to, or imagining himself capable of seeing the very complex process through for 1000+ hours and at an expense of $60,000 over two or three years.  Taking it apart is easy…

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Market 335: Clean 1600 Spider Veloce

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Giulia Spider Veloce 1600 AR390532, 00121*02129 This car is available right now from Fantasy Junction in Emeryville California -my local candy store. These 1600 Veloce’s are highly sought after, having lots of power and flexibility due to the Veloce spec 1600 shared with the Sprint Speciale, the legendary handling of the Alfa Spiders, great brakes and all the Veloce goodies.  Survivor-ship of this rare model is pretty high if my register is any indication.  Asking price is $68,500.

Considering FJ only deals in the finest examples, this car is as expected.  Clean, straight, detailed and ready for the road.  All chrome bits have been restored.

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Market 266: Late Spider Veloce

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Update 10/10/10: 47 bids resulted in a reserve not met price of $27,000.

Giulia Spider Veloce 10118*390717. This car is on eBay right now out of New Mexico.  It was restored once upon a time by Bobcor to a driver standard with an incorrect engine and some questionable parts combo’s.  Asking price of nearly $40K is more in line with a correct, numbers matching car.  A side note- Fusi lists these Spiders as having an engine with a 00118 prefix -there is no such thing- they came with the same engine as a Giulia SS -with a 00121 prefix.

Passes the wow test -a glossy picture from 10 feet.  Stance is good, bright work looks nice and the door and hood fit is pretty good.

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Market 229: Another day, another Spider Veloce

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Giulia Spider Veloce 10118*390171. Doing a thus-far unsuccessful tour of eBay right now is this good looking example of the late 1600 Spider Veloce.  There is some almost humorous dialog in the Q & A section surrounding the as yet undisclosed engine number and for good reason -without the original engine and with other vagueness such as the lack of underside pictures, the $35K opening bid may be a little too much in my opinion.

Oh boy -a slightly blurry picture of a nice looking red car in the sun -panel fit of course looks great. I am not sure but I think this car has Fergat’s on the front and Borrani’s on the back -not the end of the world but worthy of giving pause -especially if the seller never noticed.

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Market 212: 1 and 1/2 Spider Veloce’s

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Update 4/26/10:  29 bids and $12,200 resulted in a sale.  Fair all the way around.

Giulia Spider Veloce 10118*390255, 00121*01757 & 10118*390245.  These cars are on eBay right now as a package deal out of Ithaca New York from a seller who sounds very knowledgable and realistic about the condition of the cars.  A little over 1000 of these late run 101 Spider Veloce’s were made, with engines in common with 1600 SS’s.  Fusi says the engines should be tipo 00118 but no such engine exists.  Values are strong for good ones, so a project is worth doing.

The overall picture isn’t too bad, but everything you see will require work.  At least the nose dimple is in pretty good shape.

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Market 149: One owner 1600 Spider Veloce kit

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Update 9/28/09: 39 bidders managed to get it up to $10,100 but the reserve was not met.    That price would have represented a good buy, heck, anything under about $15,000 would be a good buy to someone who can put it together from all those parts in the pictures.  It costs the same amount and takes the same amount of time to restore a Normale versus a Veloce and the Veloce ends up worth nearly twice what the Normale is so there is no reason this car shouldn’t go for good money.

Giulia Spider Veloce 1600 10118*39018X.  This 1964 one owner Spider is on eBay out of Milwakee Wisconsin right now.  Seller has withheld the last number in the vin “for privacy”.  This is sort of funny since for new vehicles the VIN is a requirement and 85%+ of old vehicles (Alfa’s at least) list their vin.  Sounds like typical ingenuous internet paranoia to me.

1600 veloce pass angleBody looks okay.  Door shut lines aren’t great, hood fit isn’t either.  Wheels need finishing.  I think the new owner will have a lot to do.

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Market 123: Barn Find late Spider Veloce

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Update 6/17/09: “The seller ended this listing early to sell to the high bidder(s) at current bid price.”  50 bids, $25,300 and the seller ended early to sell to the current high bidder.  I guess eBay has figured out that there was no way they could keep this from happening so they have embraced the off auction sale.  $25k for this car is about right in my opinion.

Giulia Spider Veloce 10118*390214, engine 00121*01727. This car is available out of Southern California on eBay and includes the rare Pininfarina factory steel hardtop. Auction description is lengthy and included at the end. Seller states the car is a 1965 and no doubt that is what the title says, but d&T and Fusi both indicate it was manufactured in 1964.

spider 390214 noseThis is how you find them and when you are very lucky you are the first one to find them and get a very good deal. I don’t think I would do much to this car at this point, just make it safe and clean. By the shape of the ovals in the wheels these are Borrani’s. There late Veloce’s seem to always have these wheels.

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Market #82: Another late Giulia Spider Veloce

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Giulia Spider Veloce 101.18 AR390652, Engine AR00121.02393.  This car is available right now from Fantasy Junction, asking price is $31,500.  They describe it thus:

“Outstanding ‘driver’ standard restoration. 2,500 miles since completion. A true Veloce by serial number. $39,500 spent on engine (rebuilt), transmission (rebuilt), suspension and brakes. Repainted in the original color. Drives well, as would be expected of a rebuilt car. Evidence of some rust repairs to the underside, but generally a straight, solid car. Great value.”

390692 aboveLooks very good.  It’s hard to get all the panels and trim pieces to align and be symmetrical after a repaint.  Color is a little boring in my opinion, but I’m sure ‘classy’ in someone elses, at least it’s original.

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Market #81: Last of the Giulietta Spider Veloces

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Sold! Car received 29 bids ending at $17,100 and seems to have sold. A good deal for he buyer if everything was as described.

Giulia Spider Veloce 101.18 AR390222, engine 00121*01752. This late Spider Veloce is on eBay right now. You don’t see original Spiders this clean very often with such regular old paintwork and straight trim with an even shine. California Black late is an unexpected bonus on a car being sold out of New Mexico.

spider-frontAt this point, 20 years into their development these Spiders were just filling a hole until the new Spider could be rolled out in full swing. The first Duettos had appeared and the GTC was available, though neither was being pushed.

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